1 00:00:04,230 --> 00:00:02,389 hi everybody josh byerly here inside 2 00:00:05,749 --> 00:00:04,240 mission control houston i'm joined by my 3 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:05,759 friend liz warren who is part of the 4 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:07,200 international space station program 5 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:08,960 science office liz 6 00:00:11,910 --> 00:00:10,800 uh is here because all this week and 7 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:11,920 really all this month again we've been 8 00:00:15,110 --> 00:00:13,200 talking about the anniversaries of 9 00:00:17,269 --> 00:00:15,120 valentina tereshkova which has been 50 10 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:17,279 years since sally ride which has been uh 11 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:19,199 30 years since those two 12 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:22,720 landmark uh flights took place but liz 13 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:23,680 let's talk about science for a little 14 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:24,880 bit first of all let's talk about your 15 00:00:27,589 --> 00:00:26,240 background i've got it 16 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:27,599 i have to write it down over here so 17 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:29,279 let's say you grew up in san francisco 18 00:00:32,709 --> 00:00:31,039 right yes i did you have a bs degree in 19 00:00:34,549 --> 00:00:32,719 molecular cellular and integrative 20 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:34,559 physiology did i say that right you did 21 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:35,360 and a 22 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:37,680 doctoral degree in physiology all from 23 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:39,600 uc davis you're a california girl so 24 00:00:42,389 --> 00:00:41,040 let's talk about 25 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:42,399 whenever you're going to school junior 26 00:00:45,190 --> 00:00:43,440 high school like when did you get 27 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,200 involved in science when did you sort of 28 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:47,280 kind of get the bug and have that happen 29 00:00:52,389 --> 00:00:50,399 i think i was born with an insatiable 30 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:52,399 curiosity i think i always knew i was 31 00:00:57,350 --> 00:00:54,719 going to be a scientist because of that 32 00:01:00,150 --> 00:00:57,360 my parents and my family 33 00:01:01,750 --> 00:01:00,160 encouraged me and fostered my interests 34 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:01,760 and i had some pretty great science 35 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:04,720 teachers as well in seventh grade 36 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,119 in california growing up i had a great 37 00:01:12,230 --> 00:01:10,080 science teacher at mrs pc and then in 38 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:12,240 high school miss miss brumbaugh at tim 39 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:14,720 lopez high school and then at uc davis i 40 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:16,799 had a really wonderful science teacher 41 00:01:20,950 --> 00:01:18,320 that really challenged me and taught me 42 00:01:23,030 --> 00:01:20,960 how fun science can be uh barbara 43 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:23,040 horowitz at uc davis 44 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:24,479 so did you spend your entire time in 45 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:27,119 california i did and i arrived in 46 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:30,079 houston after getting my phd 47 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:31,520 about nine years ago 48 00:01:33,990 --> 00:01:32,640 okay so first of all let's talk about 49 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:34,000 this about this photo that we're looking 50 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,119 at right now you have a space shuttle on 51 00:01:38,950 --> 00:01:37,360 the back of your graduation gown did how 52 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:38,960 did that happen 53 00:01:42,789 --> 00:01:41,040 well uh i knew where i was going there 54 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:42,799 was no doubt in my mind that i was going 55 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:43,759 to be 56 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:47,040 working at nasa one day and i think it's 57 00:01:51,429 --> 00:01:48,960 in part because of the achievements of 58 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:51,439 sally ride and valentina tereshkova 59 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:53,439 really blazing the trail there was no 60 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:54,960 doubt in my mind just because i was a 61 00:01:58,870 --> 00:01:56,719 woman that i'd be able to achieve my 62 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:58,880 dreams as well so they sort of inspired 63 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:00,399 you to kind of go into it whatever you 64 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,840 absolutely you know i'm sure you talked 65 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:03,360 a lot of high school and junior high 66 00:02:06,789 --> 00:02:05,520 kids whenever you're out there and and 67 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:06,799 you know the ones that are interested in 68 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:08,160 science how do you tell them what to 69 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:09,280 figure out what they want to do we 70 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:10,479 talked to camille elaine yesterday about 71 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:11,599 the same sort of thing like how do they 72 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:13,760 even know what they want to go into 73 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:14,720 well 74 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:16,800 careers in stem and particularly in 75 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:18,239 science 76 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:20,640 are extremely rewarding 77 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:22,319 primarily because you're always learning 78 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:23,520 something new 79 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:26,160 and that makes for an exciting career 80 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:27,520 always changing 81 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:28,400 and 82 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:30,640 so to students i say 83 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:32,239 stick with it sometimes careers or 84 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:33,920 sometimes education can be a little bit 85 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:35,680 challenging 86 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:37,760 but that just makes it more fun yeah and 87 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:40,000 the number of doors that are open to you 88 00:02:44,949 --> 00:02:42,800 when you have uh skills in science 89 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:44,959 technology engineering and math are 90 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,640 really limitless 91 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:48,239 so you've done a lot of work here at 92 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:50,480 nasa in terms of sort of how the human 93 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:53,200 body reacts to being in space talk a 94 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:54,720 little bit about that 95 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,480 well uh when we watch uh people in zero 96 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:00,480 gravity uh it sure looks like a lot of 97 00:03:03,190 --> 00:03:01,760 fun but um 98 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:03,200 running on the treadmill right it is 99 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:07,120 that's me running on nasa's c9 aircraft 100 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:09,200 which allows 20 to 30 seconds of 101 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:11,680 microgravity at a time it flies 102 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:12,800 well yes 103 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:16,959 also known as the vomit comet and 104 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:19,200 well i tell students that 105 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:20,480 um 106 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,319 these careers are really exciting and 107 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:24,480 really fun and my interest in 108 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:27,280 microgravity um really stems from the 109 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:29,840 fact that the human body is fascinating 110 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:31,040 on its own but when we go to 111 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:33,200 microgravity a lot of the changes that 112 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:35,599 occur are really not so good for us our 113 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:37,440 bodies decondition pretty rapidly 114 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:39,360 without gravity 115 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,920 and one of my favorite experiments on 116 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:43,920 the international space station is 117 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:45,760 actually an experiment called integrated 118 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,959 cardiovascular and in essence it studies 119 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:50,879 the way that the heart deconditions 120 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:53,120 during long duration space flight 121 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:53,920 and 122 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:55,760 i helped implement that experiment 123 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:57,120 actually just down the hall here in 124 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:59,040 mission control working with working 125 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:00,879 with the folks in the payload operations 126 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:02,640 integration center 127 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:05,200 as a scientist here at nasa 128 00:04:08,470 --> 00:04:06,720 and one of my favorite parts of that 129 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:08,480 experiment was 130 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:10,480 operating an ultrasound device which the 131 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:12,159 astronauts used on orbit to take 132 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:13,680 pictures of their heart so we could 133 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,200 actually see the changes that were 134 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:17,199 occurring that's interesting you know we 135 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:18,239 talk about ultrasound a little bit 136 00:04:20,949 --> 00:04:19,840 because it's uh 137 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:20,959 you know one thing i learned whenever i 138 00:04:25,189 --> 00:04:23,280 came here was that you know size 139 00:04:26,550 --> 00:04:25,199 and weight hugely matter whenever you 140 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:26,560 take things up and one thing the space 141 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:28,320 station is doing is helping to sort of 142 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:29,600 miniaturize 143 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:31,759 you know the size of mris and and 144 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:33,440 ultrasounds and things such as that like 145 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:35,040 talk a little bit about that 146 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:36,479 so the ultrasound device that is 147 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:38,479 currently on orbit is actually a 148 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:40,800 commercial off the shelf item that is 149 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:42,880 very small pretty much no larger than a 150 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:44,000 laptop 151 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:45,199 and 152 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:47,440 we took that up on orbit with some 153 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:49,680 slight modifications to make it uh make 154 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,960 it usable on space but uh technologies 155 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:55,040 have been miniaturized largely because 156 00:05:02,070 --> 00:04:58,479 of uh nasa technology and and the need 157 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,080 to have smaller uh technologies and and 158 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:04,960 machinery um thanks to nasa spinoffs 159 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:06,880 essentially so final question whenever 160 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:08,080 you take a look at these anniversaries 161 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:10,240 of taraskova and ride and you know you 162 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:11,919 look around at 163 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:13,440 you know the space station science team 164 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:14,639 itself you take a look at all these 165 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:15,919 flight controllers in this room i mean 166 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:17,680 it's a very diverse 167 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:19,440 uh you know people from all walks of 168 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:21,759 life all over the world and all kinds of 169 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,240 education background you know is that 170 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:26,160 does that excite you or is it just sort 171 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:28,000 of normal now 172 00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:29,440 you know i think it's actually pretty 173 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:31,039 normal now 174 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:33,360 we do have a very diverse team here at 175 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:34,960 nasa in particular 176 00:05:39,189 --> 00:05:36,960 there are women astronauts women flight 177 00:05:41,189 --> 00:05:39,199 controllers women flight directors our 178 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:41,199 center director is a woman 179 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:42,880 we have a woman up on the international 180 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:45,360 space station right now and these things 181 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:47,039 don't make headlines i think it's just 182 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:50,240 expected now the new astronaut class of 183 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:52,960 2013 is half women and while that did 184 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:54,320 make some headlines because it was the 185 00:05:58,469 --> 00:05:56,080 first time that it happened it really 186 00:06:00,309 --> 00:05:58,479 was wasn't that surprising that is more 187 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:00,319 indicative of the number of applicants 188 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:02,000 that are women and and the most 189 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:03,680 qualified people are picked so i think 190 00:06:05,909 --> 00:06:04,880 it says a lot 191 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:05,919 well it's always good to talk to 192 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:07,120 appreciate you coming over here and 193 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:08,800 spending some time here on the air with 194 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:10,240 us thank you of course if you'd like to 195 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:11,600 learn more about the space station all 196 00:06:14,309 --> 00:06:12,639 the different science experiments that 197 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,319 the crew is currently working on you can 198 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:16,240 take a look at it by expedition or by 199 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:17,680 discipline just log on to the nasa 200 00:06:23,749 --> 00:06:22,550 station just look on the left-hand side 201 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,759 of the page you'll see research and 202 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:26,000 technology there and see all kinds of 203 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:27,520 information there about what uh what the